Urgent Help Needed Please..................!

[gogamer]

hi all,

I am an Indian national, married to UK citizen. Have been in Ireland since 4 years, though m on stamp 2 but want to know if i can change my visa status to stamp 4, I heard people can change visa status to stamp 4 if their wife is UK citizen. If somebody please provide me info on whether i can change my visa status to stamp 4 frm stamp 2 or is this just a rumor.

Any information on dis will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Suleman.

[Vikingdub]

Is your UK citizen wife resident in Ireland? Did you marry her before or after you arrived in Ireland? If your wife is resident in Ireland you can apply for EU1, if she is not resident in Ireland you cannot.

[gogamer]

Thanks for the rep much appreciated....!

she is in ireland and I married her in India, now we are in Ireland. Can you let me know what EU1 stands for. I would appreciate if u can provide me any information on dis.

Thanks in advance.

[Vikingdub]

The question I asked is she resident in Ireland, in other words has she established residence here, is she is a position to support you financially? When did you marry? You are here on a student visa which was granted on the understanding that you would leave Ireland when you completed your studies. You were aware at that time that you could not change your status unless you had a work permit. As you are probably aware the authorities have come to regard with suspicion marriages between Asian men and other EU nationals due to the number of bogus marriages between Asian men and othe EU nationals. Where these marriages occur when the non-EU party is an illegal immigrant, has entered the country on a visitor's visa and over stayed, entered the country on a student visa and whose course of studies is now complete and the visa has either expired or will expire soon, then immigration authorities are likely to reject any application to remain as the spouse of an EU citizen.

If your marriage is genuine and she is a UK citizen, why not move to the UK and apply for residency there as the spouse of a UK citizen?

Originally Posted by Vikingdub

If your marriage is genuine and she is a UK citizen, why not move to the UK and apply for residency there as the spouse of a UK citizen?

Are you in position to decide or suggest for couples where to live? this sound like a racist comment to me. what if the couple is qualified to live in Ireland. what do EU freedom of movement mean to you?
It is better you start campagning for Ireland to opt out from EU to save yourself from all those stree of trying to tell people where to live. And that unemployment in Ireland is alarming so they should not come. Channel your resource in that way and see how far you can go.
You cannot stop people from moving to Ireland. It is impossible.
As regard to fraud in marriages between non eu and eu citizen, it is for government to tackle the problem and I don't think they cannot do that if they really want. There are many options to resolve that problem.
So stop being racist!

[Vikingdub]

Save the racist accusations, they have no impact on me, I am not a racist and find it very sad that certain individuals feel that they can stifle debate by accusing those that they disagree with of being racist.

You have taken the sentence out of context, it was part of a reply to a question on change of status on marrying a UK citizen, the fact that a large number of bogus marriages between Asian men and other EU citizens have been exposed, results in immigration making more stringent checks on the bona fides of these marriages. In that context I suggested that the process might be faster and easier in the UK as the that the UK spouse's home country. What is racist about that? As it transpires, UK immigration takes a much stronger line on requests for visas on the basis of marriage.

Freedom of movement is for EU citizens and qualifying families, every country in the EU has a right to ensure that only genuine applicants receive approval, therefore, countries retain the right to ensure that applications on the basis of marriage to other EU citizens are genuine. The government is taking action against bogus marriages, however, you deem this to be racist!!

The government, through the immigration process attempts to ensure that only people who may legally move to Ireland do so. It is difficult but not impossible to stop those who seek to enter the country illegally, overstay, abuse the aslyum system, etc and the government can and should be ensure that they are removed from the State.

What I am saying is that why would the couple go to UK if they are qualified to live in Ireland. Since the system has been abused which result in tougher measures by Irish immigration then it is the duty of the couple to make sure they meet all the necessarily requirements in order to remain in Ireland.
the issue of marriage fraud are more common in UK and Ireland as other EU countries. I still don't know why Irish government allow marriage to take place with the non EU having no legal status in Ireland.
If an asylum seeker fails then what are they waiting to deport him or her to his or her country of origin after an appeal has also been refused.
Also, the length of time they allow to process asylum application give rise to people trying to find other options.
I don't have problem in them applying tougher measure to prevent bogus marriage but they shouldn't as a result of that create hatred to other nationalities. E.g once a marriage is between Eastern Europe and Asia or Africa person then it is bogus marriage.
As the minster of Doj said, that he understands that this people are more of economic migrants than the real asylum seeker. Naturally, it is known that man tends to migrate when things get tougher in their country and the same happen to Irish people some century ago.
That some people chose to be in Ireland shouldn't be a problem rather it should be the responsibility of Irish government to allow people who are qualified to remain in the country.
In essence, it is high for time Irish government to wake up from their slumber and face their responsibilities.